* . *
  • About
  • Advertise
  • Privacy & Policy
  • Contact
Monday, September 29, 2025
Earth-News
  • Home
  • Business
  • Entertainment
    Jussie Smollett Claims He Was ‘Disrespected’ on the ‘Special Forces’ Season Premiere – Yahoo

    Jussie Smollett Opens Up About Feeling ‘Disrespected’ During the ‘Special Forces’ Season Premiere

    TicketSmarter Fall Entertainment Guide – Eastern Illinois University Athletics

    TicketSmarter Fall Entertainment Guide – Eastern Illinois University Athletics

    Cardi B Adds More Dates to Little Miss Drama Tour: ‘Y’all Making Me Work’ – Yahoo

    Cardi B Extends Little Miss Drama Tour: “Y’all Making Me Work

    ‘Today’: Sheinelle Jones Thanks Katie Couric for Support After Husband’s Death – CBS 19 News

    Sheinelle Jones Expresses Heartfelt Thanks to Katie Couric for Support After Husband’s Passing

    Sate your hunger at DBA’s Taste of Downtown – Bakersfield.com

    Indulge Your Cravings at DBA’s Taste of Downtown!

    Caesars Entertainment (CZR): Assessing Valuation After Times Square Casino Setback and Mounting Investor Concerns – simplywall.st

    Caesars Entertainment Faces Times Square Casino Hurdles as Investor Concerns Mount

  • General
  • Health
  • News

    Cracking the Code: Why China’s Economic Challenges Aren’t Shaking Markets, Unlike America’s” – Bloomberg

    Trump’s Narrow Window to Spread the Truth About Harris

    Trump’s Narrow Window to Spread the Truth About Harris

    Israel-Gaza war live updates: Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh assassinated in Iran, group says

    Israel-Gaza war live updates: Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh assassinated in Iran, group says

    PAP Boss to Niger Delta Youths, Stay Away from the Protest

    PAP Boss to Niger Delta Youths, Stay Away from the Protest

    Court Restricts Protests In Lagos To Freedom, Peace Park

    Court Restricts Protests In Lagos To Freedom, Peace Park

    Fans React to Jazz Jennings’ Inspiring Weight Loss Journey

    Fans React to Jazz Jennings’ Inspiring Weight Loss Journey

    Trending Tags

    • Trump Inauguration
    • United Stated
    • White House
    • Market Stories
    • Election Results
  • Science
  • Sports
  • Technology
    Why I gave the world wide web away for free | Tim Berners-Lee – The Guardian

    Why I Decided to Make the World Wide Web Free for Everyone | Tim Berners-Lee

    From shale to steam: Fossil fuel technology boosts clean geothermal energy – Washington Examiner

    From Shale to Steam: How Fossil Fuel Technology is Powering a Clean Geothermal Energy Revolution

    How Sustainable Technology is Shaping a Greener Future – Technology Magazine

    How Sustainable Technology is Driving the Revolution Toward a Greener Future

    Aurora police hope to add facial recognition technology to crime-fighting tools – CBS News

    Aurora Police Aim to Boost Crime-Fighting with New Facial Recognition Technology

    Autonomous Solutions shows off cutting-edge technology for the public – Cache Valley Daily

    Autonomous Solutions Unveils Cutting-Edge Technology for the Public

    Amazon to Pay $2.5 Billion in Prime Membership Settlement – The New York Times

    Amazon to Pay $2.5 Billion in Prime Membership Settlement – The New York Times

    Trending Tags

    • Nintendo Switch
    • CES 2017
    • Playstation 4 Pro
    • Mark Zuckerberg
No Result
View All Result
  • Home
  • Business
  • Entertainment
    Jussie Smollett Claims He Was ‘Disrespected’ on the ‘Special Forces’ Season Premiere – Yahoo

    Jussie Smollett Opens Up About Feeling ‘Disrespected’ During the ‘Special Forces’ Season Premiere

    TicketSmarter Fall Entertainment Guide – Eastern Illinois University Athletics

    TicketSmarter Fall Entertainment Guide – Eastern Illinois University Athletics

    Cardi B Adds More Dates to Little Miss Drama Tour: ‘Y’all Making Me Work’ – Yahoo

    Cardi B Extends Little Miss Drama Tour: “Y’all Making Me Work

    ‘Today’: Sheinelle Jones Thanks Katie Couric for Support After Husband’s Death – CBS 19 News

    Sheinelle Jones Expresses Heartfelt Thanks to Katie Couric for Support After Husband’s Passing

    Sate your hunger at DBA’s Taste of Downtown – Bakersfield.com

    Indulge Your Cravings at DBA’s Taste of Downtown!

    Caesars Entertainment (CZR): Assessing Valuation After Times Square Casino Setback and Mounting Investor Concerns – simplywall.st

    Caesars Entertainment Faces Times Square Casino Hurdles as Investor Concerns Mount

  • General
  • Health
  • News

    Cracking the Code: Why China’s Economic Challenges Aren’t Shaking Markets, Unlike America’s” – Bloomberg

    Trump’s Narrow Window to Spread the Truth About Harris

    Trump’s Narrow Window to Spread the Truth About Harris

    Israel-Gaza war live updates: Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh assassinated in Iran, group says

    Israel-Gaza war live updates: Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh assassinated in Iran, group says

    PAP Boss to Niger Delta Youths, Stay Away from the Protest

    PAP Boss to Niger Delta Youths, Stay Away from the Protest

    Court Restricts Protests In Lagos To Freedom, Peace Park

    Court Restricts Protests In Lagos To Freedom, Peace Park

    Fans React to Jazz Jennings’ Inspiring Weight Loss Journey

    Fans React to Jazz Jennings’ Inspiring Weight Loss Journey

    Trending Tags

    • Trump Inauguration
    • United Stated
    • White House
    • Market Stories
    • Election Results
  • Science
  • Sports
  • Technology
    Why I gave the world wide web away for free | Tim Berners-Lee – The Guardian

    Why I Decided to Make the World Wide Web Free for Everyone | Tim Berners-Lee

    From shale to steam: Fossil fuel technology boosts clean geothermal energy – Washington Examiner

    From Shale to Steam: How Fossil Fuel Technology is Powering a Clean Geothermal Energy Revolution

    How Sustainable Technology is Shaping a Greener Future – Technology Magazine

    How Sustainable Technology is Driving the Revolution Toward a Greener Future

    Aurora police hope to add facial recognition technology to crime-fighting tools – CBS News

    Aurora Police Aim to Boost Crime-Fighting with New Facial Recognition Technology

    Autonomous Solutions shows off cutting-edge technology for the public – Cache Valley Daily

    Autonomous Solutions Unveils Cutting-Edge Technology for the Public

    Amazon to Pay $2.5 Billion in Prime Membership Settlement – The New York Times

    Amazon to Pay $2.5 Billion in Prime Membership Settlement – The New York Times

    Trending Tags

    • Nintendo Switch
    • CES 2017
    • Playstation 4 Pro
    • Mark Zuckerberg
No Result
View All Result
Earth-News
No Result
View All Result
Home Technology

What comes after open source? Bruce Perens is working on it

December 31, 2023
in Technology
What comes after open source? Bruce Perens is working on it
Share on FacebookShare on Twitter

Interview Bruce Perens, one of the founders of the Open Source movement, is ready for what comes next: the Post-Open Source movement.

“I’ve written papers about it, and I’ve tried to put together a prototype license,” Perens explains in an interview with The Register. “Obviously, I need help from a lawyer. And then the next step is to go for grant money.”

Perens says there are several pressing problems that the open source community needs to address.

I feel that IBM has gotten everything it wants from the open source developer community now, and we’ve received something of a middle finger from them…

“First of all, our licenses aren’t working anymore,” he said. “We’ve had enough time that businesses have found all of the loopholes and thus we need to do something new. The GPL is not acting the way the GPL should have done when one-third of all paid-for Linux systems are sold with a GPL circumvention. That’s RHEL.”

RHEL stands for Red Hat Enterprise Linux, which in June, under IBM’s ownership, stopped making its source code available as required under the GPL.

Perens recently returned from a trip to China, where he was the keynote speaker at the Bench 2023 conference. In anticipation of his conversation with El Reg, he wrote up some thoughts on his visit and on the state of the open source software community.

One of the matters that came to mind was Red Hat.

IBMredhat

Red Hat strikes a crushing blow against RHEL downstreams

READ MORE

“They aren’t really Red Hat any longer, they’re IBM,” Perens writes in the note he shared with The Register. “And of course they stopped distributing CentOS, and for a long time they’ve done something that I feel violates the GPL, and my defamation case was about another company doing the exact same thing: They tell you that if you are a RHEL customer, you can’t disclose the GPL source for security patches that RHEL makes, because they won’t allow you to be a customer any longer. IBM employees assert that they are still feeding patches to the upstream open source project, but of course they aren’t required to do so.

“This has gone on for a long time, and only the fact that Red Hat made a public distribution of CentOS (essentially an unbranded version of RHEL) made it tolerable. Now IBM isn’t doing that any longer. So I feel that IBM has gotten everything it wants from the open source developer community now, and we’ve received something of a middle finger from them.

“Obviously CentOS was important to companies as well, and they are running for the wings in adopting Rocky Linux. I could wish they went to a Debian derivative, but OK. But we have a number of straws on the Open Source camel’s back. Will one break it?”

Another straw burdening the Open Source camel, Perens writes, “is that Open Source has completely failed to serve the common person. For the most part, if they use us at all they do so through a proprietary software company’s systems, like Apple iOS or Google Android, both of which use Open Source for infrastructure but the apps are mostly proprietary. The common person doesn’t know about Open Source, they don’t know about the freedoms we promote which are increasingly in their interest. Indeed, Open Source is used today to surveil and even oppress them.”

Free Software, Perens explains, is now 50 years old and the first announcement of Open Source occurred 30 years ago. “Isn’t it time for us to take a look at what we’ve been doing, and see if we can do better? Well, yes, but we need to preserve Open Source at the same time. Open Source will continue to exist and provide the same rules and paradigm, and the thing that comes after Open Source should be called something else and should never try to pass itself off as Open Source. So far, I call it Post-Open.”

Post-Open, as he describes it, is a bit more involved than Open Source. It would define the corporate relationship with developers to ensure companies paid a fair amount for the benefits they receive. It would remain free for individuals and non-profit, and would entail just one license.

He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.

Pointing to popular applications from Apple, Google, and Microsoft, Perens says: “A lot of the software is oriented toward the customer being the product – they’re certainly surveilled a great deal, and in some cases are actually abused. So it’s a good time for open source to actually do stuff for normal people.”

The reason that doesn’t often happen today, says Perens, is that open source developers tend to write code for themselves and those who are similarly adept with technology. The way to avoid that, he argues, is to pay developers, so they have support to take the time to make user-friendly applications.

Companies, he suggests, would foot the bill, which could be apportioned to contributing developers using the sort of software that instruments GitHub and shows who contributes what to which products. Merico, he says, is a company that provides such software.

Perens acknowledges that a lot of stumbling blocks need to be overcome, like finding an acceptable entity to handle the measurements and distribution of funds. What’s more, the financial arrangements have to appeal to enough developers.

“And all of this has to be transparent and adjustable enough that it doesn’t fork 100 different ways,” he muses. “So, you know, that’s one of my big questions. Can this really happen?”

GNU turns 40: Stallman’s baby still not ready for prime time, but hey, there’s cake

Oracle pours fuel all over Red Hat source code drama

Rust Foundation so sorry for scaring the C out of you with trademark crackdown talk

Open source community split over offer of ‘corporate’ welfare for critical dev tools

Whether it can or not, Perens argues that the GPL isn’t enough. “The GPL is designed not as a contract but as a license. What Richard Stallman was thinking was he didn’t want to take away anyone’s rights. He only wanted to grant rights. So it’s not a contract. It’s a license. Well, we can’t do that anymore. We need enforceable contract terms.”

Asked whether the adoption of non-Open Source licenses, by the likes of HashiCorp, Elastic, Neo4j, and MongoDB, represent a viable way forward, Perens says new thinking is needed.

He’s not a fan of licenses like the Commons Clause, which is at the center of a legal battle involving Neo4j.

“Why is the Commons Clause bad?” he writes. “First, there’s the Brand Problem. Open Source licenses have a ‘brand’ which is the understanding of the rights they convey, and of course Open Source has a brand too, which is the understanding of the rights in the Open Source Definition. The Commons Clause appears to use the Open Source license, but doesn’t give the same rights at all, thus abusing the license brand for profit.

“The other problem is that the Commons Clause is added to licenses that don’t actually allow terms to be added, like the AGPL 3 on Neo4J. AGPL and GPL have two paragraphs that both disallow the addition of terms. So, when a licensor adds the Commons Clause, they create a license with self-contradictory legal language.”

“We’ve been working on the [software-as-a-service] problem for quite a long time,” Perens tells The Register. “I remember attending a [Free Software Foundation] meeting, where the question was, ‘what do we do about Google?’ And the AGPL came out of that meeting.”

Perens doesn’t think the AGPL or various non-Open Source licenses focus on the right issue in the context of cloud companies.

I think that AI is always plagiarism… When you train the model, you’re training the model with other people’s copyrighted stuff…

“So AGPL, for example, makes software disclose its own source code in some way,” he says. “What we’re actually talking about is public performance in software, and public performance is a separate right under copyright, because it was necessary for plays and films. So we have that right under copyright and we can use it. I think those licenses are all sort of trying to reach a goal and are getting partially there because they only tried to make slight changes from open source. And, you know, it’s 30 years that we’ve had open source. We can consider a radical departure.”

Asked about the current enthusiasm for the tech which the industry refers to as “AI,” Perens expresses disapproval.

“I think that AI is always plagiarism,” he says. “When you train the model, you’re training the model with other people’s copyrighted stuff. And what the AI does is mix and match and output a combination of what was input. We have to consider that. How do we compensate the people whose data was used to train the model? Should we be training it with open source software? I don’t think so. But it does more than that. It reads people’s websites. It reads the whole of Wikipedia. Nobody on the input side is being compensated fairly for the output. So that’s a big question we have to resolve.”

As to whether US efforts to withhold technology from China are working, Perens said they have been largely ineffective.

“The Chinese can do, with one or two exceptions that will fall soon enough, everything that we do,” he says, noting that while they’re behind on advanced chips, they’ll catch up. He says he came away from his trip surprised by how similar the people in the US and China are, both in terms of the way people live their lives and in their disinterest in the geopolitical posturing in the South China Sea that adds tension to the US-China relationship.

Maintaining some degree of civility with China also has implications for the open source community due to US export laws, specifically, ITAR, the International Traffic in Arms Restrictions, administered by the Department of State, and EAR, the Export Administration Regulations, overseen by the Department of Commerce.

“Now, space satellites and digital voice CODECs, and some uses of Kraken RF project, and probably hundreds of other Open Source projects, are still on the list of restricted technologies,” Perens explains. “As a result of several lawsuits, both ITAR and EAR got carve-outs for ‘information in the public domain.’ This doesn’t mean ‘public-domain software,’ which is a matter of copyright. It means ‘not trade-secret.’ So it applies to Open Source and published research.

“Today, a project that is completely disclosed can be operated without restriction under ITAR and EAR. Open Research Institute, a while ago, did the work to get such a project explicitly approved by the Department of State and Department of Commerce. So it’s currently possible to run an Open Source project for what might otherwise be a ‘munitions’ technology, including with nations that would otherwise be restricted under ITAR and EAR. This is something important for us to protect, both for Open Source and for public research. It is always under threat as US politicians are increasingly concerned with such things as 3D-printed guns and many of them want to be more restrictive of technology sharing with China, etc.”

“I think that it’s very scary that potentially we have strife with this country,” says Perens. “But if you look at the people, the people are so much like us today. We really should be having peace together.” ®

>>> Read full article>>>
Copyright for syndicated content belongs to the linked Source : The Register – https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2023/12/27/bruce_perens_post_open/

Tags: comessourcetechnology
Previous Post

Apple’s timepiece turmoil taken to appeals court

Next Post

Scientists mull Solar Radiation Management – a potential climate-change stop-gap

Neighborhood Ecology Corps – RaleighNC.gov

Uncover How the Neighborhood Ecology Corps is Transforming Raleigh

September 28, 2025
A chemistry teacher’s approach to chocolate making: Meet Maram the STEM chocolatier – The Advocate

A chemistry teacher’s approach to chocolate making: Meet Maram the STEM chocolatier – The Advocate

September 28, 2025
The right stuff: New cohort of astronauts recruited by NASA – Digital Journal

The right stuff: New cohort of astronauts recruited by NASA – Digital Journal

September 28, 2025
‘Fallapalooza’ encourages active lifestyle for senior safety – WVIR

Fallapalooza Ignites Senior Spirit for Active and Safe Living

September 28, 2025
Why I gave the world wide web away for free | Tim Berners-Lee – The Guardian

Why I Decided to Make the World Wide Web Free for Everyone | Tim Berners-Lee

September 28, 2025
While chasing DK Metcalf, Isaiah Rodgers reached unprecedented speed – Yahoo Sports

Isaiah Rodgers Hits Unbelievable Top Speed While Chasing Down DK Metcalf

September 28, 2025
Poland bounce back with first ever World Championship bronze – Volleyball World

Poland Triumphs with Historic First-Ever World Championship Bronze in Volleyball

September 28, 2025

Russian Economy Struggles Under Growing Strain of Ukraine Conflict

September 28, 2025
Jussie Smollett Claims He Was ‘Disrespected’ on the ‘Special Forces’ Season Premiere – Yahoo

Jussie Smollett Opens Up About Feeling ‘Disrespected’ During the ‘Special Forces’ Season Premiere

September 28, 2025
Tom Holland shares health update after suffering concussion on ‘Spider-Man: Brand New Day’ set – New York Post

Tom Holland Opens Up About His Recovery After Concussion on ‘Spider-Man: Brand New Day’ Set

September 28, 2025

Categories

Archives

September 2025
M T W T F S S
1234567
891011121314
15161718192021
22232425262728
2930  
« Aug    
Earth-News.info

The Earth News is an independent English-language daily published Website from all around the World News

Browse by Category

  • Business (20,132)
  • Ecology (842)
  • Economy (862)
  • Entertainment (21,736)
  • General (17,298)
  • Health (9,905)
  • Lifestyle (875)
  • News (22,149)
  • People (864)
  • Politics (872)
  • Science (16,072)
  • Sports (21,362)
  • Technology (15,845)
  • World (844)

Recent News

Neighborhood Ecology Corps – RaleighNC.gov

Uncover How the Neighborhood Ecology Corps is Transforming Raleigh

September 28, 2025
A chemistry teacher’s approach to chocolate making: Meet Maram the STEM chocolatier – The Advocate

A chemistry teacher’s approach to chocolate making: Meet Maram the STEM chocolatier – The Advocate

September 28, 2025
  • About
  • Advertise
  • Privacy & Policy
  • Contact

© 2023 earth-news.info

No Result
View All Result

© 2023 earth-news.info

No Result
View All Result

© 2023 earth-news.info

Go to mobile version