Taylor Swift Calls Out Kim Kardashian in TIME Interview
Taylor Swift is not holding back this time…ready for it?
The Grammy winner, who has officially been deemed TIME’s Person of the Year, is calling out Kim Kardashian for her role in the infamous 2016 phone call leak between Taylor and Kanye West regarding his song “Famous.”
At the time, Kim—who posted footage of the call on social media—made it look like Taylor had approved the lines “I feel like me and Taylor might still have sex / Why? I made that bitch famous,” a point Taylor has refuted, arguing she’d never been shared the song in full. (A release of the entire phone conversation four years later showed the original leak to have been edited down, and the “Cruel Summer” artist’s claims to be true.) Now, Taylor is revisiting that time in her life—and the toll it took on her.
“You have a fully manufactured frame job, in an illegally recorded phone call, which Kim Kardashian edited and then put out to say to everyone that I was a liar,” she told TIME in an interview published Dec. 6. “That took me down psychologically to a place I’ve never been before.”
She explained, “I moved to a foreign country. I didn’t leave a rental house for a year. I was afraid to get on phone calls. I pushed away most people in my life because I didn’t trust anyone anymore. I went down really, really hard.”
In the moment, she felt the scandal to be the end of her music career, adding, “Make no mistake—my career was taken away from me.”
E! News has reached out to reps for Kim but has not yet heard back.
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Around the time of the full conversation’s leak in 2020, Kim took to social media to share her feelings, tweeting in part, “@taylorswift13 has chosen to reignite an old exchange […] I didn’t feel the need to comment a few days ago, and I’m actually really embarrassed and mortified to be doing it right now, but because she continues to speak on it, I feel I’m left without a choice but to respond because she is actually lying.”
But in the years since, Taylor has learned to shake off all the drama. In fact while on her Eras Tour this year, the 33-year-old has made light of the Kanye feud on multiple occasions.
Between an all-too-real laugh while performing “This Is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things” off Reputation in July and a quip about being interrupted while on stage during a show in August, Taylor seems to be leaving the noise behind her and instead focusing on the good in her life—including her relationship with boyfriend Travis Kelce.
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And indeed, her romance with the Kansas City Chiefs tight end has taken center stage for Swifties and NFL fans alike—a level of publicity the Midnights artist isn’t shying away from.
“When you say a relationship is public, that means I’m going to see him do what he loves, we’re showing up for each other, other people are there and we don’t care,” she added to TIME. “The opposite of that is you have to go to an extreme amount of effort to make sure no one knows that you’re seeing someone. And we’re just proud of each other.”
For more on why the NFL star might just be the perfect person for Taylor’s love story, keep reading.
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No. 1: He’s a Swiftie
Long before Taylor Swift’s attendance at Kansas City Chief’s Sept. 25 game became one of the definitive pop culture moments of the year, Travis Kelce was an admirer of the Grammy winner.
The star tight end’s interest in Taylor was first revealed by one of his teammates in a TikTok video posted by the Chiefs in August.
Before Travis could answer the prompt of who his celebrity crush was when he was growing up, wide receiver Marquez Valdes-Scantling spilled, “Taylor Swift!”
Travis smiled at the camera before holding his finger up to his moustache, saying, “Alright now!”
Plus, Travis was just one of many celebs to attend Taylor’s record-breaking Eras Tour this summer. But more on that enchanting moment in a bit…
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No. 2: He’s Not Her Usual Type (on Paper)
While he does have that daydream look in his eyes (especially when he sees Taylor on the big-screen at one of his games), Travis stands out a bit when you look back at Taylor’s dating history.
She is typically attracted to creative types, including actors (Joe Alwyn, Jake Gyllenhaal, Taylor Lautner and Tom Hiddleston) and musicians (Calvin Harris, John Mayer, Harry Styles, and, most recently, Matt Healey).
But perhaps that’s why her romance with the lighthearted and cheeky athlete—who signed a four-year deal worth $57 million in 2020—feels like such a refreshing option for Taylor after her six-year uber-private relationship with Joe came to an end this past April.
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No. 3: He Publicly Pursued Her
Looks like the 8-time Pro Bowler’s wishes came true after he all but manifested his rumored romance with the superstar through sheer will, determination and declarations of infatuation.
Travis publicly aired his failed attempt to shoot his shot and talk to Taylor when he attended the Kansas City stop on her Eras Tour July 7. As it turns out, he had a special gift for her: He made her a friendship bracelet bearing his “number” that he hoped to give Taylor. (He wouldn’t definitely say if it was his jersey number or phone number.)
Alas, the NFL’s best tight end couldn’t get past the line of scrimmage that is Taylor’s pre-show rituals.
“I was disappointed that she doesn’t talk before or after her shows because she has to save her voice for the 44 songs that she sings,” Travis shared on the July 26 episode of his New Heights podcast. “So I was a little butt-hurt I didn’t get to hand her one of the bracelets I made for her.”
Despite his claim that he failed to reach the end-zone, many fans speculated that the two had been talking, something Travis more or less confirmed during a Sept. 22 appearance on The Pat McAfee Show.
“I threw it out there, I threw the ball in her court,” he explained. “I told her, ‘I’ve seen you rock the stage at Arrowhead. You might have to come see me rock the stage at Arrowhead and see which one’s a little more lit.’ We’ll see what happens in the near future.”
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No. 4: She Isn’t In Hiding
Since her breakup with Joe, Taylor has been seen out and about much more frequently, including outings with friends in New York City and jubilant appearances at award shows, like the 2023 MTV VMAs.
But her most talked-about appearance? Sitting in Travis’ suite at the Kansas City Chief’s Sept. 24 home game against the Chicago Bears.
Rather than shy away from the attention, Taylor cheered, screamed “Let’s f–king go!” when Travis scored a touchdown and enjoyed beverages and a chicken tender with as one fan called it “ketchup and seemingly ranch.”
Like the public, even Travis admitted he was caught off-guard by Taylor accepting his invite.
“Shoutout to Taylor for pulling up, that was pretty ballsy,” Travis said during the Sept. 27 episode of the New Heights podcast. “I just thought it was awesome how everyone in the suite had nothing but great things to say about her, the friends and family.”
“She looked amazing,” he added. ” It was definitely a game I will remember, that’s for damn sure.”
After the game, Travis and Taylor were spotted leaving the stadium together in his convertible.
“We just slid off in the getaway car at the end,” said Travis, notably referencing Taylor’s hit song.”Shoutout to Taylor for coming through and seeing me rock the stage.”
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No. 5: He Knows When to Pull Back
While Travis isn’t afraid to spill some tea on his podcast about his interactions with Taylor, he still expressed his boundaries about addressing his personal life moving forward.
“I know I brought all this attention to me,” he explained. “I did the whole friendship bracelet thing and told everyone how butthurt I was that I didn’t get to meet Taylor.” However, he continued, he didn’t plan to give a full play-by-play of their relationship.
“What’s real is that it is my personal life and I want to respect both of our lives,” he explained. “I’m enjoying life and I sure as hell enjoyed this weekend. So everything moving forward, I think me talking about sports and saying ‘alright nah’ will have to be where I keep it.”
But that doesn’t mean he wasn’t willing to respectfully call out the NFL for not exactly being delicate with their coverage of Taylor’s recent interest in, ahem, football.
“They’re overdoing it a little bit for sure—especially my situation,” he said during the Oct. 4 episode of New Heights. “But I think they’re just trying to have fun with it.”
No. 6: He’s Family-Oriented
Like Taylor, who is close with her parents, particularly her mother Andrea, Travis hails from a tight-knit fam, including his parents Ed and Donna Kelce.
Donna became a beloved public figure when she became the first mother to have two sons playing against each other in a Super Bowl, when Travis faced off against his older brother, Philadelphia Eagles center Jason Kelce in the big game this past February.
“For all the stars to align and for them to get through high school and college and the pros. And for them to both play in the Pro Bowl and to play in the Super Bowl, and then for this to happen,” Donna told ET at the time. “This is just like a dream come true. I can’t express enough how special this is for the family and it’s just crazy.”
For the big game, Donna, who was married to Ed for 25 years before they divorced, supported both of her sons by wearing a half-black, half-red Eagles and Chiefs jacket.
After the Super Bowl, which saw the Chiefs best the Eagles, Travis and Jason got emotional while reflecting on sharing the experience with Donna.
“The moment I saw mom is when I got really emotional,” Jason said on the brothers’ New Heights podcast. “It was so awesome…She was on top of the world for a week.”
“She was the heavyweight champ man,” Travis added. “She was on top of it, and she shined the whole time.”
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No. 7: He’s Super-Close With His Brother
Like Taylor and her younger brother Austin, Travis has a special bond with his older brother Jason, who inspired him to play football.
In addition to their impressive careers as NFL players, Travis and Jason launched their podcast New Heights in September 2022, a project that has only strengthened their relationship.
“What this did was gave us a scheduled 2-3 hour window where we have to talk to each other and we have to talk about what we’re going through, throughout the week and throughout the games,” Travis told NBC Sports in February. “It’s almost been like therapy, man.”
No. 8: They Have a Mutual Friend
Sure, the pair technically never met until this year, but there have been a few invisible strings tying them together.
Taylor and Travis both count Miles Teller as a friend, with the Top Gun: Maverick star and his wife Keleigh Sperry even being recruited by Taylor to star in the music video for “I Bet You Think About Me” off Red (Taylor’s Version) in 2021.
Travis, meanwhile, joined Miles and Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes for golfing practice ahead of the American Century Championship in 2022.
Miles tweeted a photo of himself on the golf course with the athletes, writing, “Grip it and rip it.” Travis proved the bromance was real when he reposted the shot and added, “Back at it like we never left!!”
(Interestingly enough, Miles is a noted diehard Philadelphia Eagles fans, so perhaps he put in a word with Jason to broker an IRL meet-up between Travis and Taylor?)
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No. 9: The Squad Is Shipping
While Taylor attended the Sept. 24 game solo, she brought an entourage of celebrity friends with her when she attended the Chiefs’ match-up against the New York Jets at New Jersey’s Metlife Stadium on Oct. 1.
She was accompanied by BFFs Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds and his friend Hugh Jackman, as well as Sophie Turner, Sabrina Carpenter and Queer Eye’s Antoni Porowski.
While their attendance at the game spoke volumes, even more telling was Ryan following Travis on Instagram.
No. 10: He Can Handle the Pressure
Not only has Travis played in three Super Bowls, winning two of them (NBD!), but he’s also hosted Saturday Night Live, so you know he can handle intense spotlight with ease.
That may seem trivial, but Taylor has penned several songs regarding her fear that her level of fame could prove to be too much for her romantic partner to handle. (See: “Peace” and “The Archer.”)
“It all depends who you’re with,” Taylor said in, “If they have a serious issue with it, I guess you’ll hide or whatever, but I don’t really like that, because it makes me feel like I’m running from the law or something. I don’t want to feel like a fugitive, like, ‘Oh my god, we’re having a relationship, better hide!'”
“I feel like if you can be in a relationship and have it seem normal, that would be good.”
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No. 11: Loving Him Was “Red”
Listen, when it comes to the Swift-verse, no Easter egg is too niche—including the Chiefs’ team colors.
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No. 12: His Birthday
Travis just turned 34 on Oct. 5 meaning he was born in—are you ready for it?—1989. Screaming, crying, throwing up, etc.
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13. A Special Connection
Speaking of Killa Trav’s birthday, did you know he shares the same one as Taylor’s late grandmother Marjorie Finlay, who is the subject of her song “Marjorie” off of 2020’s evermore. If we didn’t know better, we’d think this is a sign…
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